Comments on: The Missing Piece of the OpenData / OpenGov Puzzle: Education http://blog.blprnt.com/blog/blprnt/the-missing-piece-of-the-opendata-opengov-puzzle-education Jer Thorp | There is an art to evolution... Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:40:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: Z http://blog.blprnt.com/blog/blprnt/the-missing-piece-of-the-opendata-opengov-puzzle-education/comment-page-1#comment-1669 Z Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:32:38 +0000 http://blog.blprnt.com/?p=1019#comment-1669 Jer, I'm a student headed toward my undergraduate thesis in urban policy, and I've been searching for exactly what you describe. I'm eager to get going with Processing and other tools, but it's all a bit daunting for those with no background in programming or computer science. Anything to make these types of tools for working with public data more accessible to a broader audience is exactly what is needed right now. Looking forward to your next post! Jer,

I'm a student headed toward my undergraduate thesis in urban policy, and I've been searching for exactly what you describe. I'm eager to get going with Processing and other tools, but it's all a bit daunting for those with no background in programming or computer science. Anything to make these types of tools for working with public data more accessible to a broader audience is exactly what is needed right now. Looking forward to your next post!

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]]> By: Tobias Hauser http://blog.blprnt.com/blog/blprnt/the-missing-piece-of-the-opendata-opengov-puzzle-education/comment-page-1#comment-1608 Tobias Hauser Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:58:47 +0000 http://blog.blprnt.com/?p=1019#comment-1608 Hi Jer I really like the idea. You have a talent to make visualizations look easy and fun. When people 'play' with data to bring forth a visualization they will also gain a much better understanding of the material in the process. From my experience with teaching students will learn better if they have relatively 'easy' tools explained to them with which they then need to solve a small problem themselves. This could perhaps be the tool to first find/retrieve and then handle data in XLM or JSON form. While CSV is easy to grasp/process there is an additional markup hurdle for XML and JSON. Maybe give a tool for that with an example. Then give simple ways of how to analyze and display the data using set pieces i.e. a small number of representation types that are really basic. This is just from my own experience taking little baby steps as you (involuntarily/unconsciously (^_^) ) taught me my first bits in processing. In that case I used your example including the design. That way the 2 variables of the approach and the way how to make it look good/aesthetic are excluded and one can concentrate on learning the rest. On my own the representation probably would have been atrocious. If I can help let me know. Hi Jer I really like the idea. You have a talent to make visualizations look easy and fun. When people 'play' with data to bring forth a visualization they will also gain a much better understanding of the material in the process.
From my experience with teaching students will learn better if they have relatively 'easy' tools explained to them with which they then need to solve a small problem themselves.
This could perhaps be the tool to first find/retrieve and then handle data in XLM or JSON form. While CSV is easy to grasp/process there is an additional markup hurdle for XML and JSON. Maybe give a tool for that with an example. Then give simple ways of how to analyze and display the data using set pieces i.e. a small number of representation types that are really basic. This is just from my own experience taking little baby steps as you (involuntarily/unconsciously (^_^) ) taught me my first bits in processing. In that case I used your example including the design. That way the 2 variables of the approach and the way how to make it look good/aesthetic are excluded and one can concentrate on learning the rest. On my own the representation probably would have been atrocious. If I can help let me know.

]]> By: joshg http://blog.blprnt.com/blog/blprnt/the-missing-piece-of-the-opendata-opengov-puzzle-education/comment-page-1#comment-1603 joshg Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:10:12 +0000 http://blog.blprnt.com/?p=1019#comment-1603 This sounds great! I'm a high school teacher and I'd love to use resources like you describe in a math or info-tech class. (I'm still mostly an on-call teacher so I can't promise a room full of beta testers though.) This sounds great! I'm a high school teacher and I'd love to use resources like you describe in a math or info-tech class. (I'm still mostly an on-call teacher so I can't promise a room full of beta testers though.)

]]> By: @tverbeiren http://blog.blprnt.com/blog/blprnt/the-missing-piece-of-the-opendata-opengov-puzzle-education/comment-page-1#comment-1601 @tverbeiren Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:39:32 +0000 http://blog.blprnt.com/?p=1019#comment-1601 I couldn't agree more. I would even like to extend your reasoning to business contexts, where tons of money are spent gathering data but only a small subset of people knows how to deal with it. I look forward to your material and would be interested to host local sessions in Belgium as well... Cheers, Toni I couldn't agree more. I would even like to extend your reasoning to business contexts, where tons of money are spent gathering data but only a small subset of people knows how to deal with it.

I look forward to your material and would be interested to host local sessions in Belgium as well…

Cheers,
Toni

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